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Hillary Clinton: How Dare You Call Universal Health Care Socialized Medicine



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Hillary goes off on a reporter at the National Association of Black Journalists Presidential Forum for daring to call socialized medicine...well...socialized medicine

Video here

What do you think she’s angry about more, that she’s essentially being called a socialist or that a black man dared wander off the liberal plantation to question her “we liberals know what’s best for you” policies?

A couple of choice quotes from the accompanying article.  First up, Hillary objecting to the “socialized medicine” label:

...the audience question came from a freelance writer named Kiara Ashanti, who wanted to know why the Democratic White House hopeful was pushing for, what he called, “socialized medicine.”

“Why are you still insisting upon moving that system in here when particularly it will hurt African American communities more than anyone else?” Ashanti asked

“Oh, man – that was a string of misrepresentations about me and the systems in other countries,” Clinton began her response. “Number one, I have never advocated socialized medicine, and I hope all the journalists hear that loudly and clearly because that has been a right-wing attack on me for 15 years, and it is wrong.”

But, it’s not wrong.  The health care system Hillary Clinton and her fellow Democrats support consists of taking wealth from everyone (or, more accurately, the top 50% of wage-earners who pay all the taxes) and redistributing it to everyone in the form of medical care.  Wealth redistribution, put simply.  And what is socialism if not wealth redistribution?

That Hillary and her fellow populist commissar-wannabes find this label inconvenient for their political agendas is neither here nor there

Next, Hillary backs up her support for socialized medicine by championing...Medicare:

“Do you think Medicare is socialized medicine?” she challenged him. “To a degree it is,” Ashanti said. “Well, then you are in a small minority in America because Medicare has literally saved the lives and saved the resources of countless generations of seniors in our country.”

Clinton went on to champion Medicare, but criticize the U.S. as the only “advanced country” to have “so many of its citizens without health care.” She punctuated her answer with a stinging, yet cordial invitation to Ashanti: “I don’t know who you are. But you come introduce yourself to my staff and we will try to give you some information if you’re interested in being educated instead of being rhetorical.”

I’m not sure why Hillary is shown as winning this debate.  She didn’t answer the guy’s question. All she did, basically, was call him stupid (or uneducated, to use her terminology) for not agreeing with her

Regardless, I always have to chuckle when liberals hold up Medicare as an example of why we should have government-run medical care.  Because, really, Medicare is probably one of the best arguments against government-run medicine there is

This year alone Medicare is expected to cost this country some $540 billion, a figure President Bush is “trimming”, according to the media, by dampening it’s growth from a projected 8.1% to 7.7% annually.  Meaning that we’ll still spend more than $540 billion on Medicaid next year and the year after that, just not as much more as previously projected

Medicaid is also a gigantic expense for taxpayers, costing about $330 billion in 2005 alone, an amount that also, historically, grows at about a 7 - 8% yearly clip

Together, Medicaid and Medicare represent a portion of our nation’s spending as a percentage of the GDP that is becoming enormous.  It is projected to actually outpace the growth in Social Security spending we’re all so worried about:

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For a group of people who would like us to believe that spending on the war in Iraq is unsustainable, they sure don’t have any qualms about spiraling entitlement expenses which are constantly burdening American tax payers with more and more taxes.  Because to this observer, Medicare spending is unsustainable

So know full well that when Hillary says she supports “universal health care” she has not a care about the gigantic, irresponsible expense it would represent for this country

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Posted by Ray on Aug 10 2007 9:38AM - Right on! Right on!

Posted by R LaBonte on Aug 10 2007 9:53AM - Wonderful reporting. This shows Hillary as she really is. Arrogant, condescending, racist, sneering, lying. Of course Hillary Clinton intends to socialize not only the small remaining part of the health care industry that is not already under the total control of government, but many other forms of business as well. She's a contemptible liar and a dissembler, as are all marxists. Thank you for stepping outside the boundaries of propaganda that her machine is enforcing on most of the media.

Posted by Mike on Aug 10 2007 11:28AM - Absolutely great reporting and nails the truth behind the facade of Hitlery care. There needs to be more exposure of this and other plans to foist more taxes on a population that will get no benefit.

Posted by Matt on Aug 10 2007 1:09PM - Watch Sicko

Posted by Kassie on Nov 12 2007 8:48AM - hillary clinton is RETARTED and she and she need to be the only one on "socialized medicine" and the only one with money takin out of her paycheck to pay for everyone else's health care and see how she likes it......$10 say that she wont and will throw a complete hissy fit about it.
end of story
and im waitin on my money

thank you :]

Posted by Tim on Dec 20 2007 9:38AM - The plain truth is that the National Health Care systems in Canada and England are superior to ours in all objective measures. The Health Insurance, Pharmas, and the AMA Docs do not want the obscene price fixed gravy train of riches to end - but people who work for a living and see the annual mix of higher insurance premiums and less coverage (higher copays, higher deductibles, more coverage rejections) will hit a breaking point.

We have socialized police protection, socialized fire protection, socialized transportation (we call them "public roads" but that just hides the fact that they are socialist) and other vital public services. Health care in the US has deteriorated so that Doctors make more money by prescribing pills than they do by curing people. Hospitals make more money by getting rid of patients as soon as possible rather thahn healing people. This greed based medical system is a great failure, exacerbated by the wealthy health industry's huge campaign contributions. The "fixed system" we have is indeed a transfer of wealth, stealing from the working people to fill the already overflowing coffers of the elite.

Our current Health Care system has become badly broken due to overwhelming greed of companies like Kaiser, Humana, Phizer, etc.

The whole scray "Marxist" thing has worn thin, allowing our country to be run by oil, banking, and health industry interests (who does your congressman really represent?) instead of being run by and for the people would make our founding fathers spin in their graves.

Posted by David H. Marshall on Jan 16 2008 9:57AM - Socialized Medicine? Underlying the DOD & VA, U.S. Government Health Care System Are Laymen Administrator Medical Decisions, e.g., HOW IT IS DONE.

THE U. S. SENATE BACKGROUND.
Despite the efforts of some, in 2008 the U.S. Congress still has not been accountable for the DOD “to harm” human experiments! [8] As now by BARDA conducted on you. [11] This is for the from 1944, 1994 U.S. Senate Report’s, now ongoing 64 years of: “INTRODUCTION” A. "During the last 50 years, hundreds of thousands of military personnel have been involved in human experimentation and other intentional exposures conducted by the Department of Defense (DOD), often without a servicemember's knowledge or consent.", B. "most Americans would agree that the use of soldiers as unwitting guinea pigs in experiments that were designed to harm them, at least temporarily, is not ethical." And “FORWARD” C. "The findings and conclusions contained in this report are those of the majority staff and do not necessarily reflect the views of the members of the Committee on Veterans' Affairs." Chairman.. The DOD & VA HEALTH CARE is under its, “III. Findings and conclusions” by the, “K. DOD and DVA have repeatedly failed to provide information and medical followup to those who participate in military research...” and “N. Participation in military research is rarely included in military medical records, making it impossible to support a veteran’s claim for service-connected disabilities from military research.” [8] In 2008 continued is a of a version of the DOD Project 112 biological lessons learned. [9] On 19 December 2006 established was the civilian “Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA)”. [11] Under the cover of its "NATIONAL SECURITY MISSIONS" withheld from the civilian “guinea pigs” are the results of its “Biomedical” Research and Development (R&D) Projects.

ALL IS IN THE RECORD!

Each Executive Branch (DOD, CIA & BARDA) Project completes the R&D process. The prior lessons learned are reviewed. The then Scope of Work defines what the experiment is "designed" to do. The how, where, when and who is identified. The conducted RESEARCHED cause and effects are closely followed. From the results are DEVELOPED safe production, use, the needed for treatment and protection, e.g., the DOD manufacturers handling of hazardous materials such as Depleted Uranium, Agent Orange, the biological agents of Project 112 [9] and the jet-engine noise levels of Project 7210 [2]. All is in the Executive Branch record! Under the cover of national security the revealing treatment evidence: 1. Is not cause identified in a subject’s Medical History, so that they never the wiser become. The deceived victim’s "to harm" effects are not Medical History recorded, therefore not addressed! Prevented is any follow up by independent civilian and Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) physicians. And 2. For veterans’ the resulting 64 years of experiment specific injuries are not in the VA "schedule of ratings for disabilities" [7] !
From 1953 the U.S. Senate "to harm" lessons learned were in direct disobedience of the DOD Secretary's TOP SECRET, right to say no order. [4] Then known by the Secretary's of all Services, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and their R&D Board. It was "UNCLASSIFIED" on 8/22/75. Nineteen (19) years later, during the U.S. Senate’s reported past 50 years, most of the "to harm" service records were destroyed in a 1973 National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) fire. Those that survived had all witnesses censored by Congress’s 1974 Privacy Act! The "Veterans Right to Know Act" was proposed in the 2005 and H.R. 4259 [109th] 2006 Congress. It never became law.
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT DID NOT KNOW?
The 1987 U.S. Supreme Court STANLEY decision [5] extends the coverage of their 1950 FERES Case that a death by a military barracks fire was an "incident to service" [1]. STANLEY treats the 1958 DOD "experiments...designed to harm" disobedience of the 1953 order [4] as also an "incident to service"! The next year was the U.S. Congress’s few 1988 Veterans’ Judicial Review Act. Established was the Veteran’s Legislative severely restricted, Article I Court. "The court may not review the schedule of ratings for disabilities or the policies underlying the schedule.", i.e., the order ignored "to harm" R&D experimental effects and their causes! The Veterans Court Chief Judge's no teeth statement with his noted VA ignoring of the Court’s decisions! [7] The Secretary of the VA was given FINAL DECISION authority on these issues. [10] Included is the power of NO APPEAL to this LEGISLATIVE Veterans Court or to the independent U.S. Judicial Branch Courts. If allowed an APPEAL, it is not part of the record at the Article I Veterans Court. It’s also missing at the next appeal at the U.S. Judicial Branch Article III, Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.

HOW IT IS DONE.

AN “IN HIS SERVICE RECORD” EXAMPLE!
A 1952-1956 USAF Jet Aircraft Mechanic. A picked "volunteer" member of a special F86-D Flight Test evaluation group. The prior to 1949 researched and developed ear muffs, flight line noise protection was not available. An exposure that resulted in an 8 day 1953 sick & dizzy (nausea & vertigo) hospitalization. After there was Aviation Cadet training. During which was the USAF Physician's 1954 Cadet Wing Commander washout exam’s, "Had some trouble with hearing while working on warm-up crew for F86-D with very high noise levels." This is an unprotected, repeated exposure to its PROJECT 7210, J47 jet-engine, from a 60 decibel (dB.) normal hearing base, 158 dB. to over 176 dB. afterburner noise level. [2] An American Medical Association (A.M.A.) 87,381 to over 699,051 sound pressure multiple (X). [3] Reassigned back to the same base and Flight Test position. A USAF Physician's 6 months after the washout exam get him off the flight line memo! Then the year later 1955 USAF Physician's do not expose to "loud acoustic trauma". The 1956 Separation from Service recorded perfect health with the 1953, 8 days sick & dizzy (nausea & vertigo) as an in-hospital "4 DAY COLD".

In 1957 was the VA Rating Board 10% hearing loss only. Administrator overlooked was the in-service evidence. It resulted in the to-date VA Administrator also overlooked, "MPerR PERMANENT" "SURGEON HQ ARRC JUN 25' 58 MEDICALLY DISQUALIFIED FOR MILITARY SERVICE"! After which is the "disqualified" ‘must have been a mistake’ by the 1959 DOD Administrator "Honorable Discharge" with its "Recommended for reenlistment - Yes"!
Acting on the advice of HMO Physicians the veteran returned to the VA in 1991. Observed was that the VA Physician exam records were incomplete. In 1994 a VA Criminal Investigator noted as misplaced the original VA 1957 received records. Then a 1995 VA Laymen Adjudicator’s medical diagnosis that the 1957 award was an all in the mind “perceptive type hearing loss”! In

Posted by zong on Mar 14 2008 12:12PM - yeah, umm i kinda of don't agree with the KXnet.com

Posted by chee on Mar 14 2008 12:13PM - yea umm i think that socialized medicine is just wrong

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