Posted by Fawkes! on Jan 15 2008 11:38AM - Technically, the Founding Fathers didn't create a secular Government. (The Constitution was based on the Magna Carta which was based on the 10 Commandments, the original real ones, not the ones people think are real) They realized the importance of Religion and it's necessary role in a healthy society and the never denied Religion and religious men to be involved in the role of Government. They forbid Government to tamper with Religion, that is what the first amendment covers, not vice versa. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion," not the other way around. That being said, I am not against Religious men attempting to shape and create laws to reflect the spiritual beliefs of the people they represent, the problem enters when men falsely use religion as a wedge issue to pry votes and support from the people; and then create laws to guide religion and the practice thereof as well as constrict the people into conformity of one singular idea. What once was honest men doing their best to do honest things has become criminal men doing criminal things using the cover of Religion to mask their evil deeds. Do we really have a problem with a religious influence in Government? Don't kill, don't covet your neighbor's wife, don't lie... All tenants of Christianity and principals of which every man of every faith can embrace. Trouble is, Government doesn't follow them. THey are above the Law it would seem. Huckabee does not believe in God the way healthy Christians do and is using their God as a chess piece to "Check mate" good people into going along with his lies. Instead of checking his record, Christians only read the headlines and are easily conned. The people will always have the Government they deserve.

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Posted by Sandra on Jan 15 2008 11:56AM - Huckabee is now the biggest crackpot, and I'm an evangelical.

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Posted by brisa on Jan 15 2008 12:08PM - Wow, talk about creating a theocracy. In my view, whenever religion gets intertwined with government, bad things happen. Does anyone remember the extreme repression in Afghanistan under the Taliban? It is the wisdom of our founding fathers, who by the way contained many Deists (those who believe in a creator, but not the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth), that Constitutionally mandated that the United States government would guarantee freedom of religion for all, and not declare an official religion for the nation.

Perhaps Huckabee should cast off his pastoral past if he wants to lead this great and diverse nation. While he may just be pandering for votes, I don't want a brainwashed evangelical to be our new "unitary executive."

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Posted by Gern on Jan 15 2008 12:33PM - Huckabee is a douchebag...like the rest of them.

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Posted by Wondertoast on Jan 15 2008 12:51PM - "As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli, ratified June 10, 1797

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Posted by Angie on Jan 15 2008 1:07PM - Oh wow, this is completely ridiculous. There is seperationo f church and state for a reason.

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Posted by Republicae on Jan 15 2008 2:37PM - Huckabee neither has the qualifications nor the understanding of what it means to be a Constitutional Republic to hold office, much less be the President of the United States. God Fobid (pun intended) this man is ever elected.

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Posted by escapefrombushistan on Jan 15 2008 3:42PM - HELLO! This line of thought is why we have the FIRST AMENDMENT, and it doesn't need to be changed. There is more than one religion in the United States. The Jews don't believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and neither do Muslims.

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Posted by Canadian on Jan 16 2008 12:32AM - Wow, why isnt america in an uproar about this?

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Posted by Ken on Jan 16 2008 4:52AM - ****ABEE!

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Posted by Earthmother on Jan 16 2008 9:48AM - No need to worry about God in politics! He's absolutely nowhere to be found there, no matter WHAT any fool spouts. The OTHER guy is the one we need to worry about, 'cause he's the one in charge...

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Posted by RonPaulorFall. on Jan 16 2008 3:40PM - It saddens me so much to be seeing my fellow Christians being duped by this guy. He constantly panders to the religious sheeple who don't know how to vote on any other cause except religion. Huck looks good on paper to the average Christian. But it's when you look at what he's DONE rather than what he SAYS, that's when you see what a fraud he is. Sheep in wolves clothing. And the more he opens his mouth that more he advertises his ignorance.

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Posted by Jack Nelson Steward on Jan 16 2008 4:42PM - G'Bye, Mike.

I liked ye fine. Y' was fun to watch, all earnest and such.

I keep hearing about this being just about abortion and marriage.

Hog sweat!

Read Leviticus, kids. There's some REAL rich stuff in there.

He should be very, very careful what he wishes for, anyway, because if you start making the Constitution conform to "God's language" you will never be allowed to go to war. You will be required to help the poor. Jesus, it turns out, had lots to say about foreign and domestic policy.

Read that "Sermon on the Mount." Now THERE'S a Constitutional amendment!

Guess you have to be careful which "God's word" you conform to, huh.

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Posted by someone on Jan 16 2008 10:43PM - I dont believe in god.

We should be allowed to believe in anything

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Posted by willy on Jan 17 2008 7:23AM - " I dont believe in god.

We should be allowed to believe in anything"

If You have to ask permission that you're already screwed!!!

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Posted by Michael Cule on Jan 17 2008 9:04AM - Magna Carta was based on the Bible? The things you learn on the Internet...

I do not recall that many verses of the Bible which concern themselves with 'Inquests of novel disseisin, mort d'ancestor, and darrein presentment' (to quote article 18) or the 'fish-weirs' that so concern article 33.

Admittedly the Church was deeply involved in the negotiations to create the Charter but mostly because they were one of the biggest landholders in any medieval European kingdom.

And the influence it had on the Bill of Rights is mostly structural: they're both attempts to limit the executive power of the state but for very different purposes and in very different ways. As it says in 1066 AND ALL THAT, the Magna Carta was 'a Good Thing for everybody, except the Common People..'

One of the more irritating tendencies of modern Christians is to claim that everything of note happened because the people involved were Christians. I rather tend to think (especially given St Paul's council to obey the established authorities whoever they may be) that political progress happened despite they're being Christians.

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Posted by Robert L. on Jan 17 2008 9:49AM - Our Founding Fathers had the same bible to use as a guide when they wrote the documents which declared our independence and the rule of our nation. Why does this guy think he can do better than the greatest men of our nation?

He has not even read the Constitution, so why should this be surprising? He does not think that the Congress should limit his power to go to war, either. If he had read the document, he would know that is plainly written that only Congress has the power to authorize war.

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Posted by FriscoTex on Feb 3 2008 7:19PM - Ron Paul is the only candidate who believes the government should follow the fundamental principals of the Constitution.

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