I was only wondering what number/address can someone can give me so myself and son can help with the packing for delivery.  Thanks in advance.

Why is it bashing when all christians want is for the homosexual community to know that  it is a choice, and a better choice for them (from the biblical standpoint) is to turn away from the homosexual lifestyle.  It can be done.

If I didn't care whether or not you went to heaven or hell, I would not even talk about it. BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I DO CARE ABOUT YOUR ETERNAL LIFE..

I don't see that many gays that are actually gay (happy).   Its a very difficult lifestyle.  And as someone on these posts said  "if I wasn't born this way, why would I chose this lifestyle?"............................They said it, not me...

Well said Jordi I to consider myself to be Christian not a perfect one if we were Jesus would not have died for us and also I will not bring politics or my views to a post that has a different topic I can set aside my differences and either acknowledge that persons post by giving them an atta boy or give an experience that I had along those lines.

I will not be as fickle as some of these people on here that cant see the truth for what it is. And ruin the best holiday of the year Christmas,

Even though it has been commercialized and the true meaning taken out it still warms my heart to help people especially if those people are children,kind of like when I hear the National Anthem played at a sporting event.

MERRY CHRISTMAS JORDI

About 30 years ago, when my wife and I got married, we went to  Illinois to meet her relatives.  She had an uncle who worked for Caterpillar Corp. in their factory near Peoria.  All of the employees there are part of the UAW union. 

At the time, they were on strike, and her uncle was some kind of a union representative who counseled fellow union members.  They had been out on strike for almost six months and he told me stories about union members who were losing their houses, their cars, boats, and other stuff because they weren't working and had no income.  He told me they were close to settling though and he thought they'd be back to work in just a few weeks. 

It turns out that they did settle, and they returned to work shortly after.  I later found out that they settled for a salary increase that turned out to be about $1.50 per hour for most rank and file members. 

Those guys were out of work for almost half a year, and at an extra $1.50 per hour, they would probably never recoup what they lost during that time, but her uncle was proud as hell that the union won.  They beat Caterpillar.  The truth was that in the long run, they only beat their own union members.

There was a time when unions served a purpose, but that time has passed, and now the only purpose they serve is to raise money from the members to promote liberal causes.  In the end, they will cause their own destruction, and it appears that the time is near.

I should also add that I proudly consider myself a Christian, with faults.  Oh, I have never claimed to be perfect, just praying I'll be there by the time my maker calls me Home.  But, I always love folk who sit in judgment of Christians.  God bless 'em. 

Anyway, can we put away the classification of people when it comes to giving?  I don't like being put in a group when it comes to the things that I do.  I like helping others because of the kind heart given to me by God, not because of a party affiliation.  Politics aren't the driving force in my life. 

High five to you TBA, as you can see I feel the same way about Christmas.  People have been bashing Christians for the longest period of time for using that word.  They want to celebrate the 'holiday' without mentioning Christmas. 

But, since this thread is more focused on things we do for folks during the Thanksgiving/Christmas season I will focus on that. 

I cooked dinner and took it to my godmother one year.  She was in her mid nineties at the time.  She'll be 100 next year.  God bless her.  I have done a lot of work with seniors and it does my heart so good to work with them.  One of the many reasons is that they really don't expect much from you.  And, they appreciate any little thing you do.  The most important reason is: if I'm blessed enough to make it to that age, I would hope someone would be as kind to me. 

BBLMCAR, You took the words right out of my mouth.  That's exactly the difference. 

Liberals think that compassion is using the force of government to take money away from those who have it and to give it (selectively)  to those who don't. 

Conservatives think that compassion is working directly with the charity of their choice, using their own time and money, and encouraging, (not forcing), others to do the same. 

The benefit goes immediately to those in need, and doesn't trickle down through the bureaucracy and get skimmed off as it filters down through each layer. 

Have a great holiday season everyone, and do what you can in your own unique way to help those in need.  Hopefully somebody will help Pets find some counseling.

I wasn't the one who started the bashing on gay people...nor the one who started about religion, military haters, anti-Obama, anti-McCain, whatever. 

You have people who.....

*call themselves devout Christians but then turn around and judge others

*call themselves non-racists but yet they turn around and make deragatory remarks about others

*call themselves "open-minded" but turn their backs to gay people and won't accept any kind of change that would disrupt their "comfort zone"

*enjoy their freedoms and privileges, but bash the military for ensuring that these are protected

*who think sexual offenders/molesters can be saved but don't want them to move into their neighborhood

*who complain about paying for a higher electric bill but yet they have houses over 4,000 square feet and leave every light in the house on

*who are concerned about pollution, but don't do anything about it except complain

I can go on forever.....hypocrites, gotta love 'em.

The difference between a liberal and a conservatives is that conservatives cheerfully give of their own time and money where as liberals give away the money of others and then complain because others don't do enough.

As far as bashing in one forum and keeping the giving spirit going in another do you people realize that even during WWI the two sides even called off battle to collect there wounded and have a Christmas?

This is just words so dont tell me we cant bury the hatchet on some posts when men were dying and they stopped for Christmas and if by me spelling out Christmas offends some of you that is to bad because after all Jesus is the reason for the season

Hometown Girl, I'm sorry...I just used your quotation...it was not meant to fire at you.  I was mainly pointing out how hypocritical people can be.  In one forum, they're all about helping other people out....supporting the spirit of giving....being nice to each other, etc etc.  But then you see them in another forum bashing others because of their sexual preference, religion, race, etc.  I completely agree with you that everyone should be treated equally...with respect and kindness.  You don't have to like them.  But not liking them doesn't give you the right to bash them.  Yes you have the right to voice your opinion in these forums, but don't turn around and preach about being "kind" to people.

I haven't read any of the forums about gay people or responded to any of them.  Actually, replying to the forum about Christmas was the first time I have posted in about 6 months. Maybe there is another hometown girl, I don't know.

I believe if we treat everyone with dignity and grace (no matter gay, straight, a different ethnicity, a different religion than our own,etc), that the world as a whole would be a much better place.  I am so sick of people critisizing others because they live different lives than what they think it is right.  God made all people to be different.  No one person is the same so why should everyone think exactly the same?

In response to pets looking for a conservative person who is giving year round and not when others are watching, I consider myself an extremely giving person and quite conservative.  I help people in need year round when the rest of the world is not watching me.  I help by offering my time, resources, friendship, skills, etc whenever necessary.  I give to charitable organizations both with my time and with my money.  I don't want any recognition for the things that I do. 

I don't appreciate being labeled as ungiving because I consider myself conservative.  I may be conservative in a lot of my thinking, but I am not conservative in my giving.

I just read the talk forum about gay people and then went to this one....funny....

Quote from hometown girl: "I hope all of us can just get off our own high horses for once, open our eyes to the hurting people of this world, and do our part to help in any way we can.  Maybe then, we could all have more joy in our lives."

Does this response apply to EVERYONE or to everyone EXCEPT gay people?  Because from the other forum, there was so much hatred toward gay people.

Just wondering......

pets- What TBA called you on whatever post has nothing to do with this post. Your seething hatred has shown through.

Bill O'Reilly is a conservative who makes mass donations to Habitat for Humanity among other charities.

Rush Limbaugh is a conservative and he makes mass donations to Marine Corp Law Enforcement Foundation.

The difference is that when liberals donate it goes to places like San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, Georgetown University, which are all fine and dandy but how many regular people go to places like that?